Night training, what to do?

[Ying]

So Becky has been day trained for nearly 6 months but is still not night trained. I'm ok with continue putting nappies on her every night until lately she's been a little funny with the nappies 2-3 hrs after she's gone to bed, she'd toss and turn and cries out for me to take the nappies off. This usually happen with those bulk night nappies, so I guess she's feeling uncomfortable. I've been changing her into slimmer nappies in the middle of the night and she doesn't protest.

The thing is some trim nappies aren't enough for her wee (she still has drink at night) so we've got leaking sometimes. I'm starting to think about night training her but I'm not sure what to do. I can't really handle accidents if she's not wearing a nappy to bed because 1) we co-sleep, me, James and Becky. 2) our queen size mattress protector takes forever to dry

I once woke her up to go to the toilet in the middle of the night and oh boy...the hissy fit she threw she doesn't like someone messing with her at night just like her mum

Any ideas/advice please?

[MadMel]

stop the night drinks, make her go before bed, buy one of those plastic sheet protectors which you don't have to dry (just wipe and new sheet) and ditch the nappies
I did this when the boys were 2 and 3, just ditched the nappies full stop, they were both night trained in less than a week with almost no accidents. Trick is to not let them drink past a certain time, for us it was an hour before bed, then they were to go to the toilet before bed. I woke them too before I went to bed to carry them to the toilet and sit them there, they usually went, we had a few screaming fits to which I stood there and told them to quit it and just go.

[Leah]

Ummmm tricky Ying, my DD1 trained day and night together. I would get a new protector that is a quicker dry though.

I never restricted Eliza with drinks, as I thought it would be horrible not to be able to have a drink if you were thirsty and I get thirsty at night too. Some kids take ages to night train and sometimes there is nothing you can do. She is only 3, my youngest brother in law was 6 before he night trained and I know a kid who was 9.

Can I be completely evil and suggest using a sposie for bed if cloth just won't hold her wees or if she is really uncomfortable? They have their place. I bought Eliza the pull up ones from Aldi when she became toilet aware and they are not expensive. We didn't use them in the end but I have given them to my SIL and she says they are fine. Sometimes making a big deal makes it worse IYKWIM rather tham just letting her work it out.

[tikki]

is she crying for you to take the nappy off because she's wet it? I know Asher makes Megsie change his nappy in the middle of the night if he wets in it.

I totally agree with Leah about not restricting drinks but beyond that I don't really have any advice or suggestions; Lily was night dry from before she was out of day nappies (unusual child LOL)

My understanding is that being night dry is a physiological development, not something that is learnt or "trained" ~ it comes when they're ready. I guess the best you can do is work with her to find something that she's comfortable in. I think some people use the Blueberry trainers at night successfully.

[haydns mum]

Haydn has been day TT since he was 25 months. He has only in the last month or so started night training.
We used disposables at night as he protested about the cloth nappies, then I moved him back to cloth as he wouldn't get up to wee if he had a disposable on.
Our biggest issue was that he would wake in the morning and wee regardless of nappy or not. I have ended up using a reward chart for dry nights to encourage him to get up and go in the morning and he now gets up and runs to the toilet in the morning .

We don't limit drinks - I find the more he drinks through the day the less likely he is to wet the bed, don't know why just the way it works.

Don't know that any of that helps Ying. You may just have to find a slimmer nappy for her that meets her needs (disposable or cloth) until she is ready to be dry overnight.

[MadMumof3]

Ying - Kaelin is older than becky adn has probably been day TT'd ( apart from when he has a nap) for about a year. he;s not ready to be night tt'd yet he will tell me when he is. i dont limit drinks at night but the boys know they shouldnt have a big drink . little drinks are ok tho enough to make them not thirsty anymore.

i wouldnt rush it.
what night nappies do you use? i have found the Keester Kovers good with K as like becky he hated the bulkiness and it also meant if he needed to get up and go to the toilet there wasnt a cover to take off and he could take it off then come get me to put it back on. he is a very heavy sleeper tho and he only takes it off in the morning. also one of the few nappies i found works well for him being a tummy sleeper.

[Ying]

I wouldn't be comfortable to restrict her drinking at night either, and she goes to the toilet before she goes to bed (even when she is already in her night nappy she asks me to take it off ). I'm not going to actually train her either as I believe a child will use the toilet when she's ready. This was our case when Becky day TT'd If she's happy to wear night nappies until she's 5, then I'm fine with that (i was a bed wetter when i was a child and i wasn't fully night dry until I was 10!), but she's starting feeling uncomfortable with the nappies (understandable 'cos she's used to not wearing nappies during the day now).

So I put a bamboo Mandy Mac on her last night after she woke up and it was ok, a little soaked in the morning but a BBH wool cover works a treat ). I was considering to use sposies on her at night too but want to see how things go first. Maybe might try some training pants but have a feeling they won't hold up her wee...

She doesn't wear a nappy for nap time and she naps for 2-3 hrs...interesting..
Donna, the KKs are what she found most uncomfortable Last night was the Bits for Bots pocket...I tried PUL GK pocket the other night but had a leak. The only nappies she's ok with right now are Beetlebums Wool pocket and Beetlebums night fitted. I'd love to get more but the chance isn't great

[~*Bron*~]

perhaps reduce the amount she drinks at night? so not completely cut it out (i'm the same, i could never stop a thirsty child drinking) but a sip or two rather than a full drink?

the rolling is possibly her coming to awareness enough to wee (we don't wee in our sleep), so if possible, you could pick her up and put her on the toilet then? you don't have to wake her at all. this is what happened with my oldest two and it worked well. a lot of work t hough. if it works for you, you could then use the less absorbent, thinner nappy on her after she goes back to bed.

[*Tracee*]

Don't rush it Ying, night training, as Tikki said son't happen until the child has the right chemical balance in their brain.

Abbey is 5.5yrs and was day trained before she was 2yrs old, yet she still wets the bed on average once a week. Claire is the same age as Becky and some nights she's dry, others she's wet but she wears a nappy most nights. She wears whatever she chooses, we have Blueberry trainers, HoneyBoy pullups, Bumwear pockets and sposies.
We take both the girls to the tiolet before we go to bed and they always have their bed double made - matress protector and sheet with another matress protector and sheet on top. That way if they're wet in the middle of the night, I don't have to remake the bed, just take off a layer

[Bec259]

Do matress protectors make the bed hot? Alex wants to wear jocks to bed, but I'm not game enough yet. He's not always dry in the morning, so I'm not sure if he's ready yet.
He never has accidents during the day, but I'm not sure if we should take the night step.
Sorry to hijack your thread Ying.