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Old 03-04-2008, 10:42 PM
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I didn't initate TTing, dd came home in January from creche wearing knickers one day.

In the hot weather it was easy to leave her nappy free at home so at the beginning I kept her in nappies when we went out, nappy free at home and let creche handle the bulk of tt'ing. Then I let dd decide if she wanted to wear a nappy or not

It started to feel like it was a bit all over the place so I read up more (here and elsewhere) bought more knickers and stickers, I made sure we sent her to the toilet every hour and we went nappyfree except for sleeps and long car trips

Things seemed to be going well, I stopped putting nappies in for creche and she even asked to go to the toilet a few times.

The last week or two has gone completely pearshaped. Nothing has happened as far as I know (except for the colder weather but it can't affect her THIS much!) but she has dropped her bundle completely. We are going through 6 changes of clothes in one day including poo - stickers and positive attention seem to be making no difference. I had expected that she'd 'get it' in a couple of weeks but she doesn't seem to be co operating at all - like she's just switched off completely. She still says she wants to wear knickers but then she says she's going to wee in them.

So that's it - I've put her back into nappies until we can sort this out. I never intended to get this strung out over tt'ing in the first place, it's just that I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing anymore, whether I should be packing nappies for overnight stays or knickers, trying to get leggings and pants dry off the line or nappies and covers. It just seems a lot harder than I thought it would be....
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:50 PM
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I know it's a thingo answer but it will happen, when she's ready. That she's done it means she knows how and it will all return sometime.
I'd put all the positive stuff there to give her the best chance she can to take it up when she's ready
but apart from that, just don't even let her see you think about it - let it mellow for a while.


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stickers and positive attention seem to be making no difference.
and this is part of my dislike for 'star chart' style behaviour modification, no offence intended.
because when the novelty of that wears off...
plus that it's modifying her behaviour for an artificial reason, iykwim, not necly bc she was totally ready kinda thing so maybe she didn't make the link - mmm if I do this I get a sticker ok I'll do it without making the real 'knowing' connection of hmm this is that feeling, and I can pee in the toilet, and I won't need nappies and ... (bah, not the best 2yo explanation lol but I hope you get what I mean)
the other thing is if she was just dabbling with it in the first place, maybe she was only just dabbling and wasn't ready for the whole thing, and the stickers etc pushed it further than she wanted to go (all good intentions) and now she's gone nup, wasn't ready for this...

Then again well, kids just sometimes do go back and forward before they really move on to the next step... yk?

As to do you keep going with knickers/nappies that's up to you I guess.
hard to revert back to nappies for her (wait, I was a 'big girl' before if you used those words and now I'm a baby again?) confidence/feeling of failure, not being able to wear knickers any more etc
but also not funfor you to be changing changing clothes etc
is there a possibility of one-wet pants or similar?

Anyway, that's my 2c - just totally 'let it be' and see what happens
she'll get there
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:37 AM
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it could just be because its geting cold, my son has had 2 night accidents in the last couple of weeks but im not worried these things happen..
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:06 AM
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From what i've heard it is so common for kids to want to TT and then realise down the track that they're not ready. I'd say just follow her lead on it. See whether she wants a nappy or undies. Let her know that underwear is for kids who go to the toilet, so if she doesn't want to go to the toilet, she'll need to wear a nappy and thats ok. I don't think its a backward step as it can give them confidence to start again. labelling nappies as a baby thing(not that you do that) could be detrimental.

just my 2 cents. how old is she?
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:58 PM
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I forgot to say she is 2.8 so old enough really, not that it was any big deal once I had bought her a whole lot of lovely new nappies - partly why I wasn't intending to TT her lol.

I agree with the stickers as a reward system but I was using it more as a record of how she was going so she could feel good about it. I certainly feel that i need to step back again and let it mellow but I'm not sure whether to offer her the choice of knickers vs nappy or just make it my decision until I feel she's being more responsive.

I do feel she's got the whole idea of TT'ing, it feels more like it's a power thing that she's exploring and maybe that's because she's not quite ready to let go of being a baby

Are one wet pants training pants? I haven't heard that description before. If we hadn't already spent a fair bit on the nappies I would look at those side snap nappies that can be pulled down like pants but we're broke now
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:41 AM
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Are one wet pants training pants? I haven't heard that description before. If we hadn't already spent a fair bit on the nappies I would look at those side snap nappies that can be pulled down like pants but we're broke now
OneWet Pants is the name of the training pants that I designed and now make to measure. There are several styles, but the purpose of all of them is to contain one wee or poo. They are quite trim and can be pulled down and up again so they are more similar to underwear than a nappy.

A number of people have begun using the expression "onewet pants" as a description for all training pants - but that is like calling all plastic storage containers Tupperware :-)
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:12 AM
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OOH lots of good comments to review.
My DD1 was doing okay at 2 ish yrs but then for various reasons got worse, at the time I was worried about going back to nappies, but ended up doing that, except perhaps some times at home. She didn't have a bad reaction to it. I think she wanted to be a bit more like a baby for a while.
In the end I decided that for her, the whole TT thing was a confidence and wanting to be perfect at it that stopped her, ie motivation type issues - aka not completely ready despite having the cognitive side of it, mostly the physiological etc.
At just under 3yo (although some kids would not be "ready' until older they are all different, just as some are TT'd completely at just 2), my DD1 seemed in my opinion to be very ready from a physiological side (ie could hold on, wee when wanting to ....) and so when another "friend" just became TT'd overnight (one of those who just "do it") so told her "right, you are now toilet trained", we got rid of all nappies even at night and converted to pull up nappies (cloth and disposable) and didn't call them nappies. Without the back up of nappies as a security and lots of positive encouragement she did really well. She was still one who had occasional accidents but they were accidents, not "I couldn't be bothered making the effort" or "it was too hard" type accidents. She was in pull ups in the day for longer than most, but as is usually true - by the time they start school, day time nappies are a thing of the past. She had a little set back when we moved house, but I remember basically she only wore undies to Preschool from just under 3 1/2yrs, so she must have been fine by then.
So that is our long winded experience of when we were 'over it'!!!!
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:52 AM
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yep Marnie I was thinking of yours
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:53 PM
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Oh I know how you feel. I too am 'over it'
DS was totally dry in the day, wearing jocks and asking to go or just taking himself to the potty, from last November. Then sometime in Feb, he started having lots of accidents, and I now have him back in nappies during the day again. It is very frustrating. He will still ask to have his nappy off to poo in the potty, so at least that is one good thing.
He doesn't seem to care if he wears jocks (I usually add a booster inside) or a nappy. I am in the process of ordering some trainer pants so at least they can be up/down easier.
Kristy- totally agree re the sticker thing, he doesn't seem to care if he gets one or not now.
I know he is still young, so I am just going to go with the flow (no pun intended) and try not to get stressed over it.
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:19 AM
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Yes it was the one wet nappies I was thinking about, I probably need to do the same as you, Sheree, and just get a whole lot of pull ups but we're broke atm. Maybe I should even just try out (gasp!) the disposable ones but then isn't it like saying "these are knickers but you can wee in them? - I'm thinking particularly of nights here - seems a contradictory IYKWIM

It's doing my head in a lot atm - I can't even write about it right now. I think I need to do some meditation...
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